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Post by Dustin Ackley on Apr 24, 2015 13:36:21 GMT -5
Thats exactly how i feel about 48 meaningless games against the opposite league. I personally dont care that much about games against SF, LA, SD, etc etc. Id rather create our own rivalries. Against more geographical based rival. Tampa, Miami, Baltimore, Washington, etc. I dont see why we have to mimic the traditional MLB structure. Were 20+ years into the future, why not some different thinking?
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Post by David_ExposGM on Apr 24, 2015 13:51:40 GMT -5
I hate the idea of playing all 16 american league teams. Thats 48 meaningless games, as you do not battle them for playoff seeding. Id vote for absolutely no interleague games. Like I said, I like the idea of full interleague. The league plays "limited" interleague now (NFL-ish) so this would not be a huge leap into the scary world of "change". BUT a non-interleague schedule is a much easier schedule to create, especially for equal home/away dates (and also already comes with the game): 30 games against 3 other teams in division (15H/15A) 6 games against 12 teams in other divisions in subleague (3H/3A) no interleague games
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Post by David_ExposGM on Apr 24, 2015 14:05:04 GMT -5
Plus I wouldn't characterize the games as "meaningless" as everyone in one league would have to play all of the teams in the other league, in this case equally, to count toward wins and losses in their divisional race.
In fact I might go so far as to say a full interleague schedule might be fairer than what presently exists in PBL. Right now, if your division plays an extremely good and balanced division (four comparatively good teams) in the other league it might be at a distinct disadvantage when compared to another division in your league that only has games against a much weaker division in the opposite league, thereby impacting the race for both division and wild card in your league. If every team in the other league was played the same number of times then things even out.
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Post by Luc_AZdbacks on Apr 24, 2015 14:44:33 GMT -5
I'll post more on this later, but I had thought of something like 18 games within your own division, 7 games against teams outside, and then play 8 inter league series. Or play 8 games against teams outside your division and play 4 inter league series'
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Post by Dustin Ackley on Apr 24, 2015 15:04:34 GMT -5
I just dont care for 48 games against the opposite league. That means youre only playing 114 games against teams that your battling for the playoffs. I'd prefer to battle against my division rivals and teams in my own league instead of playing against the other league.
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Post by Tim_GiantsGM on Apr 24, 2015 15:41:12 GMT -5
Without expressing an opinion one way or the other, I will say that it seems that playing all games either within the AL or the NL would mitigate the risk of the "repeating schedule" issue that has surfaced from time to time.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2015 15:54:57 GMT -5
I say just make a division with the Twins being the only one in it. I want a better chance of winning dammit!!
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Post by BlueJaysGM_Fin on Apr 24, 2015 18:24:40 GMT -5
I say just make a division with the Twins being the only one in it. I want a better chance of winning dammit!! Are we really sure the Twins would still win under this scenario?
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Post by Tim_KCRoyalsGM on Apr 24, 2015 18:34:18 GMT -5
I say just make a division with the Twins being the only one in it. I want a better chance of winning dammit!! Are we really sure the Twins would still win under this scenario?
Oh, BURN! Lol, sorry. .. been watching too much of That 70's Show.
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Post by BlueJaysGM_Fin on Apr 24, 2015 18:42:56 GMT -5
Kelso!
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Post by Texas Rangers on Apr 24, 2015 22:54:18 GMT -5
Is there any thought into making the schedule more unbalanced? Right now we only get 14 games against each team in our division, which isn't very many especially with only 4 teams per division. What about increasing that to 18 games, which is more in-line with what the MLB does and would give each team 3 home series. Bump... Anybody have any thoughts on this? I'm actually a big fan of this, I'd love one more series with Derek and the Sox
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Post by David_ExposGM on May 4, 2015 8:39:28 GMT -5
I just noticed something that, from re-reading this thread, I now understand a bit more. And, as I think I mentioned earlier, I have had exchanges with both Ron and Derek regarding working for a new schedule (my preference would be full inter-league, also as I've mentioned), but a NEW schedule, in some form, is CRITICAL! With the new schedule loaded now I see that my team (which basically means the entire league) is playing the EXACT schedule from last season. Same teams, same order, SAME LIMITED INTER-LEAGUE GAMES. I believe the game is supposed to do some limited order changing year over year automatically, so I'm not sure what's going on here but... Please recognize with me, that it's a problem? Here's why (from my perspective and, although I haven't fully checked this, probably from the entire AL West perspective): - I'm sure longtime PBL GM's are already aware (I'm newer, so just catching on) - The schedule has limited inter-league right now in that we each play FOUR teams from the other league in several series through the season.
- The ideal scenario, in that structure, would be that we play "A" division in the other league, meaning the four teams in a single division.
- And even MORE ideal scenario would be that we rotate through each of the opposing divisions each season for variety and a different challenge AND, at the same time, have the opponents juggled a bit (even within the same structure) so that we do not play the same schedule in lock-step.
- And, once again, I think in an online league everyone playing everyone else (still in a ratio of more division, same league and fewer, but all inter-league teams) is fantastic - but that's not my point here)!
My point is - possibly because of the same schedule being used over and over for some reason - or possibly because of expansion to 32 teams in past and less schedules accommodating a non-MLB style league, my team, at least, plays "selected" opponents from the other league, not a good through not good four-team division!
Here's who the Angels will play AGAIN this season inter-league:
San Diego Padres
- FOUR consecutive division titles
- ONE World Series
- THREE consecutive World Series appearances
- Last three seasons 100+ WINS
New York Mets - WILD CARD winner last season
- 97 Wins last season
- 2nd in their division
- And I apologize in advance for this - The WEAKEST of the lot!
Arizona Diamondbacks - WILD CARD last THREE seasons
- 100+ Wins in one of those
- 2nd in their division consistently
Pittsburgh Pirates - DIVISION TITLE in 18 of last 20 SEASONS
- TWO World Series
- MULTIPLE 100+ Win seasons
I guess it could be worse and we could play strictly division champs in EACH division, but this is still pretty daunting EACH YEAR.
If we were to play a division, then at least we would have a range of good to not-so teams. Conversely, this probably means that another AL division likely plays "lesser" teams annually. And if the schedule for the four teams above is reciprocal then you can see how they would FEAST on the AL West (widely quoted as being the "weakest" in the PBL in the forums) during their limited inter-league schedule.
Granted these existing inter-league games only account for a small portion of the current 162 game schedule, but it is artificially benefiting and penalizing teams, depending on who consistently plays who, and simply have to be changed in some way.
In my opinion of course.
And this can be done up until we start Spring Training, I believe.
NOT ranting and raving BTW, just seeking some change on this matter.
Thanks for raising it again Ron!
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2015 9:02:57 GMT -5
I agree with David, perhaps we should use this as an opportunity to switch inter-league play off completely ? If ootp can't vary our schedule then at least we should just play the same NL/AL teams each year?
The only other option is to make say four or five schedules which vary our limited inter league play and cycle them manually each year?
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Post by Luc_AZdbacks on May 4, 2015 10:47:31 GMT -5
Agreed with David. As much as I love playing the Angels, we should definitely switch up the schedule every year, regardless of whether or not we change the format of the schedule. I seem to play Carolina in the opening series every year..
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Post by BlueJaysGM_Fin on May 4, 2015 18:27:53 GMT -5
There is an even 16 teams in each league, so it is definitely something that would work if inter-league is turned off. The current challenge for MLB is having 15 teams in each league, forcing an inter-league series each week. I'm in favor of switching it up. I mean, after all, I don't want the weakest team to be playing at any disadvantages if I can help it.
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