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OOTP 20
Mar 2, 2019 12:23:55 GMT -5
Post by Commish_Ron on Mar 2, 2019 12:23:55 GMT -5
A new version is coming up. There have been comments in the past on if we need to migrate to every new version annually. I do think it is important to keep current for two reasons. 1) it is easier to recruit new coaches if we are up to date. 2) Generally in software conversions get dicey if you skip versions. In order to keep a upgrade path available for PBL at the minimum I would have to buy all versions so we could migrate 19 to 20 to 21.
I know that OOTP has put a ton of resources into Perfect Team. So I do not have high expectations for 20 to have much for online leagues. But at the minimum it looks like they are giving us some extra options for bullpen management which I think we all agree is needed.
In addition to deciding if we want to upgrade, we can also discuss when that would happen. I would be open to pushing our conversion back to after the MLB all star break so that teams have the option of waiting for that annual sale to save a few bucks. Personally I like to the middle ground where we do not feel pressured to jump in right away but rather let the first few obligatory bug fix patches roll out.
Unless there is lots of support for skipping a version the decision probably is if we want to convert after the 2050 season (probably around June) or push it back to after 2051 (probably around September).
We can discuss over the weekend and I will put up a poll on Monday.
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Post by Tim_GiantsGM on Mar 2, 2019 13:27:13 GMT -5
My preference is to migrate to each new version earlier rather than later. I like the option of converting after the 2050 season.
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Post by sansterre - Milwaukee Brewers on Mar 2, 2019 13:29:28 GMT -5
I favor upgrading to OOTP20 as soon as it is practical to do so; ie, the bugs are reasonably straightened out and we're at the end of a season.
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Post by Wilson_DodgersGM on Mar 2, 2019 13:31:50 GMT -5
I like converting after the bugs have been worked out and much more prefer doing it when it goes half off like it does every season. Usually the game isn't fixed completely until around then anyway.
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Post by craigWhiteSox on Mar 2, 2019 13:38:33 GMT -5
I like to wait until the new patches and bugs are fixed. Take a wait and see approach. But I do agree with all of the recruitment angles and running old versions against new updated ones causing problems with the load and uploading
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Post by Mac_Yankees GM on Mar 2, 2019 16:17:33 GMT -5
I have not all that excited by what I heard about 20 so far. Although I am curious how the game play will go with the addition of the Opener role.
I would like to wait to when all of those annoying patches and fixes have gotten done. I suggest we upgrade after the 2051 season.
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Post by earlweaver on Mar 2, 2019 16:23:32 GMT -5
i would prefer to wait for the all star sale. My confidence in the company squashing bugs is at an all time low with the perfect team addition. I know they try to say the right things, but that doesn't mean we get the truth from them on everything. It's pretty clear they feel perfect team is their money maker now, which is why i would wait until the all star game sale until converting. I will do whatever the league does though...
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Post by Texas Rangers on Mar 2, 2019 22:40:24 GMT -5
To each their own, but I do not at all understand things like Perfect Team or any of the individual, storyline-heavy stuff they put in to sports games like NBA2K. So I looked up what Perfect Team is and, I just....do not get it. Which is fine, not everything is for me! Nothing that Markus was describing made sense sense. It appears that he is describing Magic: The Gathering: With Baseball.
Edited as I realize that I didn't weigh in, which I will do now: do OOTP 20, whenever the league feels like it. My priority for participating in this thread was hating on the concept of Perfect Team, which I do not like.
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Post by BlueJaysGM_Fin on Mar 3, 2019 8:35:00 GMT -5
I’m in the camp we upgrade every year, and do so as soon as we are reasonably confident the latest patch will be stable for us. My view of the game is they make incremental improvements each year to the AI and how it behaves related to performance, strategy and contract demands. It may not move at the speed we all want it to, but fire up a game from 14 and then compare to 19. There are differences. . The improvement to the digital players when replaying a game will also be slightly tweaked and improved. It’s the small things that enhance our immersion and I have come to appreciate how replays are played out with my little digital players in the game. I remember a time, long ago, when I was in online Madden leagues. When they got rid of the PC game in favour of the consoles, it died a slow death without further enhancements. My hope is OOTP doesn’t follow this path and we should count ourselves fortunate how dedicated the devs are to patching issues as quickly as they do, or to mention put out a new game every year. Nothing lasts forever folks, so enjoy what we have for as long as we have. Upgrading every year is necessary IMHO. Let’s do it as soon as we possibly can!
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Post by Rich - Former GM on Mar 3, 2019 10:53:50 GMT -5
I'm for converting annually, but, like others, wait till the game is in a stable position and we don't have to deal with bugs. If our seasons are expected to be wrapped up near the All-Star break or when the playoffs start in real life, all the better if there's a sale.
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OOTP 20
Mar 3, 2019 12:57:16 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by Wilson_DodgersGM on Mar 3, 2019 12:57:16 GMT -5
I’m in the camp we upgrade every year, and do so as soon as we are reasonably confident the latest patch will be stable for us. My view of the game is they make incremental improvements each year to the AI and how it behaves related to performance, strategy and contract demands. It may not move at the speed we all want it to, but fire up a game from 14 and then compare to 19. There are differences. . The improvement to the digital players when replaying a game will also be slightly tweaked and improved. It’s the small things that enhance our immersion and I have come to appreciate how replays are played out with my little digital players in the game. I remember a time, long ago, when I was in online Madden leagues. When they got rid of the PC game in favour of the consoles, it died a slow death without further enhancements. My hope is OOTP doesn’t follow this path and we should count ourselves fortunate how dedicated the devs are to patching issues as quickly as they do, or to mention put out a new game every year. Nothing lasts forever folks, so enjoy what we have for as long as we have. Upgrading every year is necessary IMHO. Let’s do it as soon as we possibly can! I don't understand how changing to 20 is a time sensitive issue. It will be there for us whenever we are ready. Let's not commit before we know the state of the game at release or even the features that will be in the game.
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Post by BlueJaysGM_Fin on Mar 3, 2019 13:01:40 GMT -5
I’m in the camp we upgrade every year, and do so as soon as we are reasonably confident the latest patch will be stable for us. My view of the game is they make incremental improvements each year to the AI and how it behaves related to performance, strategy and contract demands. It may not move at the speed we all want it to, but fire up a game from 14 and then compare to 19. There are differences. . The improvement to the digital players when replaying a game will also be slightly tweaked and improved. It’s the small things that enhance our immersion and I have come to appreciate how replays are played out with my little digital players in the game. I remember a time, long ago, when I was in online Madden leagues. When they got rid of the PC game in favour of the consoles, it died a slow death without further enhancements. My hope is OOTP doesn’t follow this path and we should count ourselves fortunate how dedicated the devs are to patching issues as quickly as they do, or to mention put out a new game every year. Nothing lasts forever folks, so enjoy what we have for as long as we have. Upgrading every year is necessary IMHO. Let’s do it as soon as we possibly can! I don't understand how changing to 20 is a time sensitive issue. It will be there for us whenever we are ready. Let's not commit before we know the state of the game at release or even the features that will be in the game. I'm not suggesting it is a time sensitive issue. I am suggesting (bolded) once the patches make the game stable, we should upgrade because every year there are incremental improvements.
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Post by Commish_Ron on Mar 3, 2019 13:08:44 GMT -5
Sounds like we are mostly on the same page. After another season we can see if the flood of patches has slowed down and see where we are in comparison to the annual all star game sale and make a determination then.
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Post by Wilson_DodgersGM on Mar 3, 2019 13:10:36 GMT -5
I don't understand how changing to 20 is a time sensitive issue. It will be there for us whenever we are ready. Let's not commit before we know the state of the game at release or even the features that will be in the game. I'm not suggesting it is a time sensitive issue. I am suggesting (bolded) once the patches make the game stable, we should upgrade because every year there are incremental improvements. I guess I was reading too much into your last sentence. I agree with you mostly. I just think if by the time we view the game as stable it is not too far from the sale, I'd rather wait and spend another in-game month or two on 19 and save a little money
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Post by kendalld00(GM for hire) on Mar 8, 2019 14:14:02 GMT -5
Sounds like we are mostly on the same page. After another season we can see if the flood of patches has slowed down and see where we are in comparison to the annual all star game sale and make a determination then. I second this... Just wait until the all-star sale and by-pass the early bugs and patches..
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