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Post by Tim_KCRoyalsGM on Jun 21, 2018 16:40:38 GMT -5
Hey Guys! Tim here to say that I am uber excited to have switched over to KC, my home team that I won a title with. MAN, it's GOOD to be back. Anyway, I'm deep diving this shit and have a quetion that I need help with. I wanna talk about SP Zachary Monroe for KC. The prior GM was either lazy or lost. Monroe was drafted in 2043 and he played exclusively in Rookie Ball for 2043, 2044 and 2045, and then in 2046 he began a 4th campaign in Rookie Ball until all of a sudden the GM decided to hit the TURBO-button and send the kid all the way to the Majors. Man. I could go on and on about that shit, but I won't. At any rate---- Monroe isn't the only player that I have which shows a ridiculous minors track record. Let's move on to my question.... So I'm trying to get my projected active roster SET for this year so I can know what I want in FA. I'd like to just demote Monroe, because I do not plan on letting him sit in the majors again this year (gimme a break). Here's my concern--- If I demote him now (like today) --- his contract tab shows on options that he has 3 options remaining and on "Option Used This Season" it says --- "NO." If I demote him today--- that will cost an option, right? And then in Spring--- because he's on the 40-man, he'll be promoted again, costing me a 2nd option, right? I don't want to burn TWO options on this guy for the price of one. Is there a time where I can just go ahead and demote him without the option being burnt PRIOR to Spring Training.... or am I going to have to wait til Spring Training to demote him if I want to burn just one option? I appreciate whatever assistance you nerds can provide me. Best Regards, Tim / KC
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Post by Commish_Ron on Jun 21, 2018 16:55:19 GMT -5
I know you can only burn one option per year. Once that option is burned you can move the guy up and down every week without consequence.
I am not positive what time an option year spans. I am pretty sure it is FA filing through FA filing next season. Hopefully someone can confirm that.
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Post by Texas Rangers on Jun 21, 2018 17:10:09 GMT -5
Ricky has a legacy that will never fade, it would be nearly impossible to be worse at it than he was. His actual plan was to tank for a decade and then promote from the minors a super team of prospects that would all hit the ground running and dominate. It was the plan of a simpleton and my only regret is that he won't be around to see just how poorly it would have went. The Rangers were never going to take the foot off the neck.
Tim is going to make that team solid in a hurry by virtue of not having a child's understanding of how this works.
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Post by Tim_KCRoyalsGM on Jun 21, 2018 17:16:55 GMT -5
Ok. I'm still deep diving here. And this has to be said:
I PROMISE (Gawd, I hope) THAT THIS WILL BE THE FINAL EFFING GRIPE THAT I POST ABOUT MY PREDECESSOR, BUT HERE IT IS:
I just realized in my review of this team the following:
The Amateur Draft that we just had in 2046... Ricky had 8 picks in the first 6 rounds with an extra pick in the 2nd and 3rd. Those 8 picks he literally JUST TOOK---- ALL EIGHT OF THEM were drafted and then IMMEDIATELY sent to AAA. At first I thought maybe it was just a LAZY approach of hitting the button for (ASK A.I. TO SET UP MY SHIT FOR ALL MINORS), but now I am wondering. I don't really think you can hit that A.I. button and have all those players go immediately to AAA right out of the draft. This guy did it on purpose. MF!
Anyway... I've inherited a team with a ton of specs, yes. But it is a clusterfu## example of what appears to be deliberate LUNACY! And I'm basically going to have to go through what amounts to pseudo REHAB-time for these specs to get them back on course.
Dude should teach a class on HOW TO RUIN YOUR SPECS 101 - By the Former Owner of KC.
OK. $%&*!@!!
NOW, I hope I'm done complaining.
#idiot
Tim / KC
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Post by Texas Rangers on Jun 21, 2018 17:24:42 GMT -5
Draft picks are sent to DFA and then must be assigned to a level. When their DFA time runs out they default to AAA. He simply wasn't paying attention to the only part of the organization he was focused on.
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Post by Commish_Ron on Jun 21, 2018 17:32:51 GMT -5
Draft picks are sent to DFA and then must be assigned to a level. When their DFA time runs out they default to AAA. He simply wasn't paying attention to the only part of the organization he was focused on. Actually, that is me. You are right, signed draft picks go to DFA. When a player runs out of DFA time, OOTP will not allow me to sim past the day until that is resolved. By default the first thing I do is try to just put the guy on AAA. With the tens to hundreds of players I have to do it for every season I just do not take the time to analyze where they should be. If that move fails because the player has to be on the 25 or 40, if he is one star and on the last year of the contract I release him. If he has a multi year contract or has 2+ stars, I sigh and start digging in to the best way to make room on the roster. This is no big deal. Just providing some insight on how I handle these since the subject came up. Also maybe this clarifies why I am not giving bonus points for exports with guys out of DFA time.
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Post by MetDaMeats on Jun 21, 2018 17:34:00 GMT -5
So I'm trying to get my projected active roster SET for this year so I can know what I want in FA. I'd like to just demote Monroe, because I do not plan on letting him sit in the majors again this year (gimme a break). Here's my concern--- If I demote him now (like today) --- his contract tab shows on options that he has 3 options remaining and on "Option Used This Season" it says --- "NO." If I demote him today--- that will cost an option, right? And then in Spring--- because he's on the 40-man, he'll be promoted again, costing me a 2nd option, right? I don't want to burn TWO options on this guy for the price of one. Is there a time where I can just go ahead and demote him without the option being burnt PRIOR to Spring Training.... or am I going to have to wait til Spring Training to demote him if I want to burn just one option? I appreciate whatever assistance you nerds can provide me. Best Regards, Tim / KC Huh... Not sure. I mean, you could always brute force it. Demote the guy, and if he loses an option (which my guess is, he won't) and if it doesn't turn out right, re-download the league file from the website.
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Post by David_ExposGM on Jun 21, 2018 18:29:55 GMT -5
His actual plan was to tank for a decade and then promote from the minors a super team of prospects that would all hit the ground running and dominate. It was the plan of a simpleton and my only regret is that he won't be around to see just how poorly it would have went. CRAP!That was my whole plan too.
Actually mine was to rebuild and draft and develop and hope that one day it will pay off. Unfortunately both "plans" have produced similar results to this point.
I like to think my "domination" is still ahead. Oh well...
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Post by David_ExposGM on Jun 21, 2018 18:32:49 GMT -5
So I'm trying to get my projected active roster SET for this year so I can know what I want in FA. I'd like to just demote Monroe, because I do not plan on letting him sit in the majors again this year (gimme a break). Here's my concern--- If I demote him now (like today) --- his contract tab shows on options that he has 3 options remaining and on "Option Used This Season" it says --- "NO." If I demote him today--- that will cost an option, right? And then in Spring--- because he's on the 40-man, he'll be promoted again, costing me a 2nd option, right? I don't want to burn TWO options on this guy for the price of one. Is there a time where I can just go ahead and demote him without the option being burnt PRIOR to Spring Training.... or am I going to have to wait til Spring Training to demote him if I want to burn just one option? I appreciate whatever assistance you nerds can provide me. Best Regards, Tim / KC Huh... Not sure. I mean, you could always brute force it. Demote the guy, and if he loses an option (which my guess is, he won't) and if it doesn't turn out right, re-download the league file from the website. I may be wrong, but think I am right. The "option" would not be shown/counted until a SIM, so demoting would (I think) do nothing immediately. That allows for mistakes and to just return the player to the place from which he came.
My input would be that the option would likely not be counted until Opening Day ANYWAY now that we are in the off-season BUT DO NOT HOLD ME TO THAT!
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Post by BlueJaysGM_Fin on Jun 21, 2018 19:34:35 GMT -5
Let's move on to my question.... So I'm trying to get my projected active roster SET for this year so I can know what I want in FA. I'd like to just demote Monroe, because I do not plan on letting him sit in the majors again this year (gimme a break). Here's my concern--- If I demote him now (like today) --- his contract tab shows on options that he has 3 options remaining and on "Option Used This Season" it says --- "NO." If I demote him today--- that will cost an option, right? And then in Spring--- because he's on the 40-man, he'll be promoted again, costing me a 2nd option, right? I don't want to burn TWO options on this guy for the price of one. Is there a time where I can just go ahead and demote him without the option being burnt PRIOR to Spring Training.... or am I going to have to wait til Spring Training to demote him if I want to burn just one option? I appreciate whatever assistance you nerds can provide me. Best Regards, Tim / KC Tim, I was able to find the following definition from the game manual: Once a minor league option has been triggered for a player (the player has been "optioned to the minors"), the option stays in effect all season. This optional assignment, or 'option,' gives the team the right to freely move the player from the minors to the active roster and back again, as many times as desired, for the remainder of the current season. However, since each player has only three 'option years,' once a player is placed on the secondary roster, the team has only three seasons to send that player up and down from the majors to the minors without any restriction. Of course, the option years do not all necessarily have to be used sequentially. For example, a player might be on optional assignment one year, then waived and removed from the secondary and demoted to the minors. He could then spend the next 3 years in the minors without ever making it onto the secondary roster, and therefore without using an option. A player who spends the entire season on the parent league team also does not use an option. My take on this is you can either use the next two option years (he has already used one up, this will reset at the end of ST) to keep him in the minors, or waive and designate for assignment (removing from the 40 man) and then save any additional option years. Of course, you run the risk with option 2 to lose him to another team. Let me also say I sympathize with your plight, the former GM was a complete idiot and I for one am glad he is going, going, gone.
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Post by Tim_KCRoyalsGM on Jun 21, 2018 21:46:36 GMT -5
Thanks everyone.
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Post by Texas Rangers on Jun 21, 2018 22:39:34 GMT -5
His actual plan was to tank for a decade and then promote from the minors a super team of prospects that would all hit the ground running and dominate. It was the plan of a simpleton and my only regret is that he won't be around to see just how poorly it would have went. CRAP!That was my whole plan too. Actually mine was to rebuild and draft and develop and hope that one day it will pay off. Unfortunately both "plans" have produced similar results to this point. I like to think my "domination" is still ahead. Oh well... I shall not even deign to hear this ridiculous comparison good sir you are nothing like him. Plus you may have taken over the worst all time pbl situation, whereas the royals won the division the year before Ricky
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