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Post by Texas Rangers on Mar 19, 2017 23:35:01 GMT -5
I know this issue is de facto decided, I'm just in love with the sound of my own voice. Err, typing. You're not as big of a fan of your typing as I Good Sir Oakland. Post more musings, whether the issue is decided or not!
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Post by BlueJaysGM_Fin on Mar 23, 2017 20:46:42 GMT -5
Catching up on some reading now that the home life has settled down a bit.
87.5% say No. Seems to me this is decided. Like a one-sided word-off between Texas and Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh wins with little talk. Texas...well, they talk.
It's really too bad the game could not represent "ratings by league-level" in the minors without impacting the major league ratings. I believe the balance would be met across this league if the game could somehow implement this function.
We are lucky to have a passionate rules committee that takes time to review ways to make the league better. Bravo. And thank you.
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Post by Peter - Boston Red Sox on Mar 24, 2017 8:37:40 GMT -5
Maybe I don't get this argument. I think this is the tool we implemented at the start of last season and then shut off because we didn't really understand it and there were lots of people against it, correct? If so, I will say that I was against it in the beginning but I liked it a lot for the short time we used it. And if I remember correctly you can shut it off if you don't want to use it. Seems like a non issue to me. If you want to use the tool to help make decisions, you should be allowed to use it. If you prefer not to use it, then don't use it. Am I missing something? Or is it really that simple?
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Post by Peter - Boston Red Sox on Mar 24, 2017 8:39:49 GMT -5
I will also say that I am a noob at this game still after 3 seasons playing online so anything that helps me make decisions in rosters is appreciated. It's like training wheels. If you don't need them, remove them. If you need them, use them.
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Post by Sean_RedsGM on Mar 24, 2017 8:58:59 GMT -5
Maybe I don't get this argument. I think this is the tool we implemented at the start of last season and then shut off because we didn't really understand it and there were lots of people against it, correct? If so, I will say that I was against it in the beginning but I liked it a lot for the short time we used it. And if I remember correctly you can shut it off if you don't want to use it. Seems like a non issue to me. If you want to use the tool to help make decisions, you should be allowed to use it. If you prefer not to use it, then don't use it. Am I missing something? Or is it really that simple? The piece you're missing is the part about "shut off". If we were starting a league today and were discussing this feature I believe a majority would vote to have this feature activated. If OOTP was setup this way out of the box, we would all be comfortable with it most likely by now. Please correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the issue for many people is that the PBL ratings also change and now you have to re-evaluate your understanding of how the rating system works. I am by no means saying change is not a good thing or that value would not be added by turning this on. That being said, the struggle for myself is weighing whether or not the change benefits outweigh the uncomfortable adjustment to a new system.
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Post by BlueJaysGM_Fin on Mar 24, 2017 9:03:33 GMT -5
Maybe I don't get this argument. I think this is the tool we implemented at the start of last season and then shut off because we didn't really understand it and there were lots of people against it, correct? If so, I will say that I was against it in the beginning but I liked it a lot for the short time we used it. And if I remember correctly you can shut it off if you don't want to use it. Seems like a non issue to me. If you want to use the tool to help make decisions, you should be allowed to use it. If you prefer not to use it, then don't use it. Am I missing something? Or is it really that simple? I bolded the part that isn't true. Once you enable this, it is on for all levels, including the major league level. A user is unable to turn it off. Just clarifying this piece, i wouldn't want someone to get the wrong idea.
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Post by David_ExposGM on Mar 24, 2017 9:37:27 GMT -5
I find it curious that only 24 GM's actually voted. For some this is an "11" against. Others seem to like it, but no big deal. I guess after 50% the vote is decided, but still...
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Post by Sean_RedsGM on Mar 24, 2017 10:20:58 GMT -5
I find it curious that only 24 GM's actually voted. For some this is an "11" against. Others seem to like it, but no big deal. I guess after 50% the vote is decided, but still... Even if you add 11 to the 3 in support, that doesn't change the vote result.
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Post by Tim_GiantsGM on Mar 24, 2017 11:00:34 GMT -5
I find it curious that only 24 GM's actually voted. For some this is an "11" against. Others seem to like it, but no big deal. I guess after 50% the vote is decided, but still... Even if you add 11 to the 3 in support, that doesn't change the vote result. True, the majority of total GMs voted against it, so the measure did not pass. I, too, always am curious why some GMs do not vote in polls conducted in this and other leagues. I would think everyone would welcome the chance to express his opinion on an issue, Hall of Fame voting, and awards voting.
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Post by craigWhiteSox on Mar 24, 2017 11:58:35 GMT -5
It's the same GMs who don't reply to messages for days on end. Don't export or change their line ups for days on end. It's pretty easy in my eyes to estimate who these GMs are.
It's likely the guys you NEVER see on the boards, or post anything on the boards.
There's also probably probably a few who have an opinion but just choose not to voice it. Much like in our presidential elections and what not where only 60% of eligible voters choose to vote. Even though the outcome can/will effect your life.
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Post by Dustin Ackley on Mar 26, 2017 16:18:16 GMT -5
Even if you add 11 to the 3 in support, that doesn't change the vote result. True, the majority of total GMs voted against it, so the measure did not pass. I, too, always am curious why some GMs do not vote in polls conducted in this and other leagues. I would think everyone would welcome the chance to express his opinion on an issue, Hall of Fame voting, and awards voting. Part of the problem with polls on the forums is on tapatalk, you dont see them... That's why i didnt vote until the other day cause i couldnt actually see it. Every league im in, is on slack so anything important is mentioned there. Im not in the habit of checking a forum anymore.
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Post by Peter - Boston Red Sox on Mar 26, 2017 17:01:05 GMT -5
Yeah for SLACK!
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